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Their single bet calculator is the part I use most — you drop in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. It also handles the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. If you want a look, it’s over at lucky 15 calc and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
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OK — been using this thing for something like a few months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me last week. I’m UK based, mostly bet football and racing, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.
How I found it was actually pretty stupid — I never could work out what an each way return actually was once you get five places instead of three. I used to just eyeball it and then be surprised. Now I type the odds in before I place anything, even the boring singles.
The single bet calculator is the part I use most — you drop in the price and your stake and it shows returns instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the bigger stuff — acca and treble maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, and that’s where I always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it lives at sports betting vig calculator — free, no signup.
One thing that genuinely changed how I bet is the nerdier extras. The odds-to-probability converter and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutch tool is handy too if I’m covering two or three runners.
It’s not perfect mind. The layout looks very functional, let’s say — zero frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. Phone-wise it’s usable though the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s no app, it’s browser only — fine by me but you asked.
Anyway. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. Anyone who honestly does the maths on paper, try it — saves me plenty of arguments with the bookie.